Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Berkeley School of Opometry

November 7, 2007 ~ 7:30-9:30pm ~ Pac Hall 3500

  • Sharon Joyce – Director of Admissions and Student affairs UCB School of Optometry– Sharon_joyce@berkeley.edu
  • Dora Stzpanovich, 4th year, class of 2008, UCB School of Optometry
Why Optometry?:
  • Optometry ranked #2 from Kiplinger.com (#1 = orthodontist); high on US News and World Report
  • Nice salary, relationships with patients, flexible schedule, good profession if you want family
  • Patients leave office feeling better than they come in
  • Lasik will not take over optometry (aging, will still need glasses while aging)
  • Depends on state, but some can do lasik, CA will get there
  • Besides glasses/contact = rehabilitating the visually impaired, and diagnosing and treating ocular diseases
Things to Consider in Choosing Your Optometry School
  • Place is last to consider
  1. Students and learning environment:
    • Calibrate with your fellow students
    • Students share notes
    • UCB has smaller class size (60) and each from different background
    • Student empowerment: second year students buy equipment for 1st year and students deal with vendors themselves (find what company you like, etc.), everyone gets same amount of scholarship ($2,000 1syear), but still have external scholarships,
2. Training:
    • National boards passing rate
    • How many patients you see
    • Prereq vs. optometry curriculum
    • 1st year: preclinical training begins day #1, UCB have a lot of prereqs b/c want to take anatomy of eye not whole body all over again (want strong students), at end have about 180 hrs of preclinical lab instruction, clinical proficiency tests at end of 1st year
    • 2nd year: 210 hrs of adcance preclinical instruction + team care (2-3 student) about 6-8 patient examinations in general clinic in 2nd semester, white coat ceremony after 2nd year
    • Summer between 3-2nd year: start summer clinic, offers spanish
    • 3rd year: 50% direct patient care, take first part of NBEO (basic science), UCB students have excellent passing rate of 95%, tend to think students do well b/c prereq (ask other school their passing rate and 1st time)
    • 4th year: 100% direct patient care, go on external rotations around USA (start of 3rd year, students decide where they want to go with lottery, at least 3, each 10-12 weeks long), around 2000 patient encounters after 4th year, advanced clinics (pathology, low vision), then old home week before graduation and take Part 2 (clinical science) and part 3 (patient care, but not difficult b/c took it in 2nd year) of NBEO

Admissions:

  • 3.0 GPA (UC requirement) and Bachelors Degree (before enrollment)
  • UCB has same common application for all grad student, school of optometry will ask question within it
  • 2 deadlines:
    • OATs no later than 12/1/2007
    • Application do by Dec. 14, 2007 by 11:59pm!
  • Turn in complete application all at once in one envelope with transcripts, letter of recommendation (but can send in separately if needed)
  • NOT rolling admissions, but clump
  • Look at all OAT scores, higher score is best
  • Class of 2011 stats:
    • 191 applied, 121 interviews, 69 offered (87% excepted), 4 students of waitlist (didn’t take off in pass), 61 enrolled
  • Interviews by invitation only (2/2/08), has a whole day that goes through interview, everyone on one day, get invitation first week of Jan.
  • no competitive advantage by applying early
  • Qualitative Considerations:
    • Experience in and knowledge of optometry: shadowing different aspect of optometry
    • Statement of purpose (why optometry, shadowing experiences, don’t say that you don’t like dentist and now want to go to optometry because you can’t go into it) and personal statement (individualistic, volunteering, leaderships skills): ask someone to read that doesn’t love you so that they can help you and read it over for you better, optometrist is a good person (would they want you as a classmate, how to be proud of something w/o being cocky)
    • UCB will give you feedback in summer of why you didn’t get accepted
    • Letters of Recommendation: 3 letters, 2 faculty, one optometrist or community leader (do not write your own!!!), do a meeting with recommender and bring in resume to let them know about you, give them copy of essay/who you did research with/resume, b/c might forget who you are so materials are point of research, also have recommendation form to fill out
    • Activities and Achievements: want to see you have life outside of school, need to be doers b/c want to see that you’re giving back, will be part of the profession
    • Special Academic Considerations: have masters degree, research, semester with bad grades,
    • Interview (student + faculty member): write assessment independently of eachother, in person essay (pro/con) have 30 minutes b/c want to know that you know how to write (evaluated by 2 ppl), already know your grades/scores so want to know you, practice interview, but be relaxed, read essay before you go in b/c interviewer has yours
    • 6 viewpoints on your application

Berkeley Campus Visits:

  • Minor hall is around other grad students in Berkeley by Hass Business school and Law school
  • Friday Visitation Program – check on website
  • “ask an advisor” program by Lisbeth, telephone appointment to answer questions
  • Summer Opto-Camp (June/July 2008): 3 day in residence at UCB
  • Admit Day (April 2008) ~ financial aid, housing

Dora Stzpanovich, 4th year, class of 2008:

  • Working at SUSD student health center
  • Had biomedical engineering degree at Vanderbilt
  • Was an interviewer: look to see if she would like as a classmate, read essay, no academic questions or medical questions


Q/A:

Q: Is one long-term shadowing better than a couple short-term ones?
A: Long term is fine because have a good relationship

Q: What's a competitive studnet's OATs/GPA?
A: About 300 OAT and 3.0 GPA

Q: When do students start clinic work?
A: UCB has a lot of clinical practice 3-5 days of week in clinic during 3rd year and begin contacts lens fitting in clinic in 3rd year

Q: How do students communicate to faculty/staff?
A: Every class has an academic liaison to talk to students about problems, etc.

Q: Does UCB teach business aspect of optometry, if you want to go into private office?
A: Yes, have business courses at UCB

Q: Where are the external rotations located?
A: All over the US, had one rotation in china, but wasn’t good, so dropped it.

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