NECO-New England College of Optometry
-Clinical program: community health centers (multidiscipline) where dentists also work
-nontraditional service: homeless service, pediatric school health programs and rehabilitation programs
-student involvement:
-1st year: screenings
-2nd year: clerkships
-3rd year: primary care rotations
-4th year: full-time patient care
-Community-based health center…VA….China…etc.
-summer between year 1 and 2 AND year 2 and 3
-get about 300 hrs of patient care during year 3 and up to 2000 during year 4
-TBA: OD/PhD degree in partnership with Boston University
-small private college
-15-20% of student body from So. Cal 15-20% from Canada
-Boston and the Back Bay
-cultural center and educational leader
-top business in Boston are: health care and education
-1mile from Fenway Park
-On the Boston side of the Charles river right across from MIT, Cambridge
-class size 115 (739 apps) 260 interviews
3.34 avg. GPA, 330 OAT
-Interview Day 2 interviews (1 with a faculty member, 1 with a student)
-tour of the campus
-oportunity to talk to students
-want to see how well you communicate, emphasis parts of application, explain weaknesses in application
-most boards pass students above 3.0
- students pay tuition with student loans
-rolling admissions
-look at whole portfolio ~3.0 GPA >300 OAT is a good starting point
-use Baron’s to rank undergraduate schools and take into account which classes were taken where (ex: community college vs. 4-year university)
Thursday, October 23, 2008
SUNY- 10/16/2008
Dr. Johnston SUNY- State University of New York
-Fewer course req. than most
-OAT deadline February 1st of the year you enter
-letters of req. 2 from professors (in math or science)
-GPA not very important; want to see TRANSRIPT (3.0 at UCSD better than 3.0 at a JC, TRENDS important)
-if didn’t do well in lower classes, take an upper division and get an A or B
-national OAT avg. 300 but SUNY wants >320.
-ex: B student from decent school with 320 OAT
-treat A and B students same in admissions process b/c they can both make it
-OAT no more important than grade
-2.8 GPA then OAT score need to be higher than 320
4 things VERY IMPORTANT:
1-Good communicators = interpersonal skills, something that makes people feel comfortable with you
2-What have you done to explore the optometry field? 2-3 different optometric fields; don’t have to work or volunteer but at least shadow; would they have gone back and done optometry all over again? What does the optometrist think about the field? Be familiar about different terms.
3-what have you done to volunteer outside of optometry? Tutoring? Hospital volunteering?
4-Why have you chosen optometry???????
-Go into interview with a question; it shows the committee that you’ve done some investigating and are serious about considering their school;
-At SUNY it’s a group decision
-Do not discriminate out of state people
-DO discriminate in tuition… in state residency last 3 years
-March 1st deadline to apply
-Can slowly turn in things, if seem strong applicant
-{Common application up July 1st for entering class of 2010.
-Requirements of each school shouldn’t change
-Check websites starting in Feb to see if all final decision have been made}
-$500 to save place once admitted have one month after decision has been made
-get all money back until April
-8 people apply for every seat
-five interviews to about 50% of applicants
-accept 2/3 of applicants from interviews
-Largest on-campus clinic, with the largest diversity of ocular disease
-SUNY rotates students through all 10-12 specialty areas 3rd and 4th year. In a given quarter!!! MWF in one specialty TuThu in another
-In first year lab and lecture with practice screening
-end of 2nd year doing routine full exams
-work by yourself 3rd and 4th year
-pick 2 out of 4 specialty areas in 4th year rotations
-Monday Tuesday Wednesday morning are interviews in SUNY with an essay prompt. With committee for 30minutes.
-Fewer course req. than most
-OAT deadline February 1st of the year you enter
-letters of req. 2 from professors (in math or science)
-GPA not very important; want to see TRANSRIPT (3.0 at UCSD better than 3.0 at a JC, TRENDS important)
-if didn’t do well in lower classes, take an upper division and get an A or B
-national OAT avg. 300 but SUNY wants >320.
-ex: B student from decent school with 320 OAT
-treat A and B students same in admissions process b/c they can both make it
-OAT no more important than grade
-2.8 GPA then OAT score need to be higher than 320
4 things VERY IMPORTANT:
1-Good communicators = interpersonal skills, something that makes people feel comfortable with you
2-What have you done to explore the optometry field? 2-3 different optometric fields; don’t have to work or volunteer but at least shadow; would they have gone back and done optometry all over again? What does the optometrist think about the field? Be familiar about different terms.
3-what have you done to volunteer outside of optometry? Tutoring? Hospital volunteering?
4-Why have you chosen optometry???????
-Go into interview with a question; it shows the committee that you’ve done some investigating and are serious about considering their school;
-At SUNY it’s a group decision
-Do not discriminate out of state people
-DO discriminate in tuition… in state residency last 3 years
-March 1st deadline to apply
-Can slowly turn in things, if seem strong applicant
-{Common application up July 1st for entering class of 2010.
-Requirements of each school shouldn’t change
-Check websites starting in Feb to see if all final decision have been made}
-$500 to save place once admitted have one month after decision has been made
-get all money back until April
-8 people apply for every seat
-five interviews to about 50% of applicants
-accept 2/3 of applicants from interviews
-Largest on-campus clinic, with the largest diversity of ocular disease
-SUNY rotates students through all 10-12 specialty areas 3rd and 4th year. In a given quarter!!! MWF in one specialty TuThu in another
-In first year lab and lecture with practice screening
-end of 2nd year doing routine full exams
-work by yourself 3rd and 4th year
-pick 2 out of 4 specialty areas in 4th year rotations
-Monday Tuesday Wednesday morning are interviews in SUNY with an essay prompt. With committee for 30minutes.
Minutes from Berkeley-10/14/2008
Why optometry?
-Gatekeeping for eye heath care.
-Right now… od can Rx for glaucoma as of two weeks ago
-Important to remain vigilant to push career forward.
-Think about the caliber of the student’s you’ll be joining at any graduate school
-Be open to other places because it’s only 4 years of your life
Optometry at Berkeley…
-Class size of 66
-Strong sense of community
-Diverse backgrounds
-Empowered student government
-EVERYONE receives financial aid
-Collaborative learning environment
-Equipment purchasing run by students
-Start practicing on day 1
Year 1
- 180 hrs of preclinic laboratory + unlimited independent practice sessions outside of class
-Fall/Spring Semester clinical proficiency exams
Year 2
-FREE EXAMS so waitlist of patients waiting to be examined by 2nd year students in groups of 3
-End of 2nd year white coat ceremony
20 Complete examinations summer after 2nd year
-Meredith Morgan Eye Clinc
-See over 75, 000 patients per year
-By graduation will have at least 2,000 individual patient encounters
Year 3
-NBEO: Basic Science
Year 4
-100%time in direct patient care
-2000 patient encounters
-Advanced clinics (e.g. pathology, low vision)
-External rotations—at least 3, each 10-12 weeks long
-Students self-manage rotation locations
-Old Home Week
- NBEO—Part II: Clinical Science
-NBEO—Part III: Patient Care
ADMISSIONS
FOR THE ENTERING CLASS OF FALL 2009 ONLY!!! (Common Application for the Year After!!)
-3.0 GPA
-Bachelors Degree
-OAT by December 1
-“Self-Manage” your application
-Apply to both Grad Division and Optometry
Qualitative Considerations
-Every application read by 2 staff members
-2 Essays
-Statement of Purpose: Why Optometry?
-Personal Statement: Who are you? What is unique about you?
-3 Letters of Recommendation (optometrist, professor, community member)
-Very serious!! Flat letters of recommendation are not good.
-Give a resume, cheat sheet, anything to help person writing your letter of recommendation
-DO NOT WRITE YOUR OWN LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION!
-Give feedback to people who do not get into Berkeley
-Make sure to have other people proofread your essays
-Interviews by invite only
-Need to be a people person
-Interviewing day on the Berkeley campus
-Either being interviewed, participated in a mock classroom, school tour or onsite essay all on Interview Day
-No scripted questions
-Get back at least 3 weeks after interviews
-For entering class of 2008
-High GPA 4.00 Low 3.01
-OAT High 390 Low 300
-Gatekeeping for eye heath care.
-Right now… od can Rx for glaucoma as of two weeks ago
-Important to remain vigilant to push career forward.
-Think about the caliber of the student’s you’ll be joining at any graduate school
-Be open to other places because it’s only 4 years of your life
Optometry at Berkeley…
-Class size of 66
-Strong sense of community
-Diverse backgrounds
-Empowered student government
-EVERYONE receives financial aid
-Collaborative learning environment
-Equipment purchasing run by students
-Start practicing on day 1
Year 1
- 180 hrs of preclinic laboratory + unlimited independent practice sessions outside of class
-Fall/Spring Semester clinical proficiency exams
Year 2
-FREE EXAMS so waitlist of patients waiting to be examined by 2nd year students in groups of 3
-End of 2nd year white coat ceremony
20 Complete examinations summer after 2nd year
-Meredith Morgan Eye Clinc
-See over 75, 000 patients per year
-By graduation will have at least 2,000 individual patient encounters
Year 3
-NBEO: Basic Science
Year 4
-100%time in direct patient care
-2000 patient encounters
-Advanced clinics (e.g. pathology, low vision)
-External rotations—at least 3, each 10-12 weeks long
-Students self-manage rotation locations
-Old Home Week
- NBEO—Part II: Clinical Science
-NBEO—Part III: Patient Care
ADMISSIONS
FOR THE ENTERING CLASS OF FALL 2009 ONLY!!! (Common Application for the Year After!!)
-3.0 GPA
-Bachelors Degree
-OAT by December 1
-“Self-Manage” your application
-Apply to both Grad Division and Optometry
Qualitative Considerations
-Every application read by 2 staff members
-2 Essays
-Statement of Purpose: Why Optometry?
-Personal Statement: Who are you? What is unique about you?
-3 Letters of Recommendation (optometrist, professor, community member)
-Very serious!! Flat letters of recommendation are not good.
-Give a resume, cheat sheet, anything to help person writing your letter of recommendation
-DO NOT WRITE YOUR OWN LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION!
-Give feedback to people who do not get into Berkeley
-Make sure to have other people proofread your essays
-Interviews by invite only
-Need to be a people person
-Interviewing day on the Berkeley campus
-Either being interviewed, participated in a mock classroom, school tour or onsite essay all on Interview Day
-No scripted questions
-Get back at least 3 weeks after interviews
-For entering class of 2008
-High GPA 4.00 Low 3.01
-OAT High 390 Low 300
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